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Post subject: lyx broken
Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 06:02 PM
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DU via smxi, 32bit.
I cant start lyx any more
apt-get install told me I had the latest version, but told me there were dependencies with this lib. It said I might try "apt-get install -f " which I did.
Now lyx pops up and then vanishes again. Not really better. I tried smxi again, it said everything was right, but it isnt.
Actually I need this program NOW.
Thanks for help,
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 07:28 PM
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Please do not tack on a problem to another thread, start a new one when the problem is not directly connected to the original topic. Otherwise it does nobody any good, including you.
Topic split to new thread.
There does not appear to be a package version mismatch between lyx and lyx-common, so you'll have to check for bug reports.
Generally, if you are in the middle of serious production work, doing a dist-upgrade is not one the better things to do, any package in sid can break at any time, and any person can be the first to discover it, especially if it is not a standard sidux package.
I recommend enabling testing sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list or sources.list, apt-get update
apt-get install lyx/testing lyx-common/testing
then place the packages on hold manually until you figure out the problem. |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 08:25 PM
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see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=475523
LyX got clobbered by the qt update. So far, there is no real fix. Maybe you can revert to the qt in testing. Or you could build LyX from the svn source, which seems not to crash any more than usual but on my system the menus are illegible |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 08:58 PM
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Please do not tack on a problem to another thread,
sorry I thought it was related, because of this lib thing.
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Generally, if you are in the middle of serious production work, doing a dist-upgrade
well, I am working on my final thesis. Following this advice might conflict with your advice du-ing not to seldom
I added testing, but apt-get said it was already the newest version, so sid and testing seem to be the same version.
BenGoodrich wrote:
thanks for this, there I read
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downgrading to version 4.3.4 of the qt4 packages solves the problem.
how can I do this, I havent done it before.
I already had removed and installed again lyx/lyx-common, it didn't help. But it said something 'lyx-common set to manually installed.' , which I could't reproduce then. Does it mean anything?
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 08:58 PM
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Or, if you are really pressed for time, you can do
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lyx -e pdflatex myfile.lyx
to export your .lyx file into a .tex file and edit it old school with kile or texmaker or whatever. See also
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lyx --help
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 10:45 PM
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There is now a workaround for LyX 1.5.4.x
Start lyx from konsole using the geometry parameter, e.g.
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lyx -geometry 10x10+10+10
That will make a small LyX window. You can grab the bottom right corner and drag it to make it bigger, but you may have grab and drag several times to get it big enough to where you can maximize the LyX window. Then, it kind of works, except the menu texts are illegible. But that will probably allow you to at least put your words on paper without downgrading qt. If that isn't good enough, then post again or go to IRC, and someone can probably walk you through a qt downgrade, but that would be a bit invasive.
SAVE OFTEN and try not to do anything that requires a repaint of the screen. You might also follow
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@l ... 38771.html
to see if of the LyX devs follow up on this suggestion with actual advice, patches, etc. |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2008 - 10:45 PM
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| cas, the chance of someone, say Ben here, seeing your post if it's a specific issue, and having more information, is much higher, as you see, if you create a thread for your specific problem, also, it's easier for anyone else who has lyx and needs it to see that there is an issue with lyx and latest libkde4core stuff. |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 01:09 AM
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ok, so this time it was me, who's hit first.
Code:
lyx -geometry 10x10+10+10
THAT'S, what I call a workaround.
thanks for this. it works gratifying up to now. I put the geometry parameter in the K-menu entry, so I can even click the documents, which I had linked to my Desktop!
Glad I hadn't to perform a handstand simultaneously!
greetings, cas |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 01:41 AM
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| this is weird. I did not get any problems with lyx after the recent qt4-update. I got some issue with other apps tho (nothing official in repo) so I installed libqt4-svg and some other libqt4-* packages before I tried lyx. Maybe due to the changes in libqt4-packages lyx is left with some bad dependencies. |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 03:29 AM
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@zulu9
Can you elaborate? When I do
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apt-get install ^libqt4-*
the only things it wants to install are
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libqt4-dbg libqt4-ruby libqt4-ruby1.8 libqt4-webkit-dbg libqt4-xmlpatterns-dbg libsmokeqt4-1
none of which seem like they would be critical to LyX. Do you have any of those? Maybe I have too many qt4 libraries or I need to purge some qt3 stuff. |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 11:28 AM
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 03:38 PM
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Installing libsmokeqt4-1 does the trick for me , although I have no idea why . |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 04:55 PM
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I installed libsmokeqt4-1, which brought also libqt4-sql & libqt4-sql-mysql.
But the problem did not change, so I removed them. |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 07:02 PM
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cas, if you are not pressed for hard disk space, try
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apt-get install ^libqt4-*
which will probably pull in a lot of stuff but may also provide a workaround for the previous workaround |
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Posted: Apr 13, 2008 - 01:39 AM
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Hi, cas,
Sorry for your LyXing problems. I had some (though they were more intimately connected with limitations in LaTeX rather than LyX) when I was finishing my thesis in grad. school, and they were frustrating!
I've tried installing the libsmokeqt4-1 package, which didn't help, and I can't install ^libqt4-* because there are conflicts and missing depends (ooch!) in some of those packages.
However, if you're desperate. you might try out the svn version of the new LyX 1.6.0. I've just downloaded it, and compiled and installed. It's very similar to the old LyX, actually works (for now), and will open your old documents. Plus, you can install the other one over it if and when these issues get resolved. The instructions I followed are here: http://www.lyx.org/devel/cvs.php
Best of luck! |
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