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Post subject: sidux iso from now on always combined?
 Posted: Jan 10, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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hi!
sidux-04.5 christmas release came in a combined iso file for both i686 and amd64... the iso size is 1430MB and of course to big for a CD... a DVD needs to be burned, if that iso shall hit an optical disk
my question is: will all sidux releases now will be combined?
(especially because i don't have a dvd burner... that question is bothering me)
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Post subject: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Jan 11, 2008 - 12:10 AM
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| I don't think it will, and I hope it won't. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Jan 11, 2008 - 12:18 AM
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kde-lite will be a cd still, kde-full probably will not fit on a cd without cutting it down even more.
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Post subject: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Jan 11, 2008 - 01:28 AM
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devil, may I ask how 'big' will the lite be? rough estimates accepted  |
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Post subject: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Jan 11, 2008 - 02:05 AM
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| It has always been ~ 400 - 500 M. The base system tends to only get larger over time, though. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 03:33 PM
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Pretty soon the lite version of an iso won't even fit a CD, then I guess CDs will go the way of floppies.
Can you believe I still sell floppies in my cybercafe. It's getting hard to find outlets to sell me new blank floppies locally. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Feb 18, 2008 - 04:59 PM
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i had to install sidux on a laptop this weekend...
i've used my older gaia live-cd and booted the new xmas full-iso using the "fromiso" cheatcode. towo gave me the important hint to use grub in text mode... there i managed to adjust the parameters to fit my situation: everyting worked, installation needed only 5 minutes.  |
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Post subject: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Feb 18, 2008 - 05:18 PM
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muskrat wrote:
Pretty soon the lite version of an iso won't even fit a CD, then I guess CDs will go the way of floppies.
Can you believe I still sell floppies in my cybercafe. It's getting hard to find outlets to sell me new blank floppies locally.
You'd probably need a Blu-Ray disc to hold all the stuff, someday  |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 10:17 PM
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Hi Guys. I still think that there needs to be a seperate ISO of the I686 version and 64 bit version that will fit on a CD. There are too many people out there that do not have a DVD burner. I for one don't care to buy and install a DVD writer, and buy DVD disks just to be able to install sidux from. I have no other use for a DVD burner, as I don't watch DVDs on my computer...I have a dvd player and TV for that. As for blue-ray, Sony can keep it...thats the most polite comment I have...the rest of my comments on Sony, and blue-ray are unprintable in polite company!
As for the lite version, there are too many important programs missing for me to download via a dial-up connection. Dial-up is my only option here, as both cable internet and DSL are vastly overpriced in this area. Its bad enough that I had to download about 80 MB of programs at minimum for sidux 2007-03, and 2007-04 was missing Gimp.
If this trend continues, I guess I will have to start looking at other distros. As much as I like sidux, its bad enough that XMMS and Pidgin are not included for no good reason, and the inferior Amarok and Kopete are included.
I have been using sidux since it became available, but it has been going in a wrong direction for a while now.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 10:41 PM
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| What's the difficulty in just downloading and installing the lite CD, and then apt-get ing the additional programs you feel it's missing? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 10:44 PM
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we cant stop stuff from growing, and that will get worse with kde4, so no chance really for kde-full on CD.
and xmms is gone from sid, its based on gtk1, dead as dead can be.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 11:15 PM
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Please read careful your own posting:
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Hi Guys. I still think that there needs to be a seperate ISO of the I686 version and 64 bit version that will fit on a CD.
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Its bad enough that I had to download about 80 MB of programs at minimum for sidux 2007-03, and 2007-04 was missing Gimp.
So you proved yourself the impossibility of an full-featured CD version in the future! Both 2007-03 and 2007-04 were 700MB isos, but as you said that was not enough!
So why complaining if you saw with your own eyes that it would be inevitable??
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There are too many people out there that do not have a DVD burner.
There is no need to burn. For example, there is also the possibillity to boot from a USB key
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I have been using sidux since it became available, but it has been going in a wrong direction for a while now.
No. The direction never has changed. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 11:22 PM
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If this trend continues, I guess I will have to start looking at other distros
kb0hae
Pretty soon your only choice will be distro's that don't use kde at all, or ones like sidux that have a lighter option, (mandriva, saybayon to name a few does this as well) and a dvd option. As said above, kde is getting big, with kde4 around the corner it is bigger, atleast with the "lite" version of sidux you can pretty much apt-get what you want. You being in the Chicago area you can always ask here for someone to mail you a dvd (I am sure many would be glad to help) or you can buy one from the shop. The thing with no dvd is easy to get around >> fromiso << also much faster, and installs faster. Sorry to see you leave if you do, but, you will find this problem not with just sidux, but any distro that uses kde. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 11:23 PM
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What we can squeeze into 703 MB cannot reasonably be called "full", our kde-full now is about ~750 MB for i686 and ~780 MB for amd64, if you look at both architectures separately; with a tendency of growing ~40 MB in 3 months (and the transition period between kde3 and kde4 will be much worse, as selected libraries and programs for both will be needed over that time).
kde-lite on the other hand is the perfect match for your (and those of many others, including myself) needs, yes it is lighter - but fits perfectly onto a CD for each architecture (and there are definately no plans to abandon these for the forseeable future), even installing on a 512 MB USB stick remains an option. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux iso from now on always combined?
Posted: Apr 12, 2008 - 11:46 PM
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Thanks slh for that feedback.
Lite is what I like (though it is too heavy for me! LOL) |
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