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 Posted: Feb 01, 2008 - 06:59 PM
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And I'd bet KDE5.0 will rock even harder  |
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Posted: Feb 07, 2008 - 08:27 PM
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| I have just installed Okular of the kde 4 series in my kde 3.5.8. It seems to work well. I love the annotation tools. |
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Posted: Mar 02, 2008 - 06:00 PM
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| Don't upgrade libgs8 if you enjoy using okular |
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Posted: Mar 03, 2008 - 09:51 AM
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| by the way: is there a way to figure out *what* package is causing others to be removed? I caught apt on the brink of removing okular and aborted the entire process. How was I supposed to figure out I'd have to put exactly libgs8 on hold? |
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Posted: Mar 03, 2008 - 10:04 AM
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 there is debate on whether to ship lenny with K4.
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There may be a possibility to include KDE4 in lenny. The efforts on
KDE4.1 have been quite promising and seem to be leading to a desktop
environment which can fully replace KDE3. The KDE team will provide
betas and release candidates of the 4.1 release in experimental. Anyone
interested is encourage to try them out and file any bugs found.
In the event that KDE4.1 is on time, and there are no major issues, an
upload to unstable in order to include it in lenny is possible. The
actual decision has been deferred for now.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/03/msg00001.html |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2008 - 01:14 AM
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severin wrote:
by the way: is there a way to figure out *what* package is causing others to be removed? I caught apt on the brink of removing okular and aborted the entire process. How was I supposed to figure out I'd have to put exactly libgs8 on hold?
When I saw that it was being removed, I did an upgrade (not dist-upgrade.) That upgraded all the packages that did not add or remove packages. There were only one choice left so I tried upgrading it and sure enough ...
There's probably another method, but that always works for me. Then package goes on hold and I go back to my dist-upgrading.
Until an upgrade to Okular comes out, I know to leave that on hold. (It's the only way this will be fixed. If you look at libokularcore1 you will notice it depends on the exact version of libgs8.) |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2008 - 03:48 AM
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Posted: Mar 04, 2008 - 09:24 AM
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@JackieBrown: thanks for the hint.
JackieBrown wrote:
Until an upgrade to Okular comes out, I know to leave that on hold. (It's the only way this will be fixed.)
Shouldn't take too long. KDE 4.0.2 is set for release tomorrow |
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Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 04:08 PM
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Just to quote debianforum.de:
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Im Debian-KDE 4 land kann es übrigens jetzt ein wenig holprig werden. Wir sind gerade dabei, KDE 4.1 Trunk nach experimental zu packen. Aus der 4.0.x Serie wird nichts mehr in Debian landen.
Wir wollen 4.1 möglichst weit testen, um frühzeitig abschätzen zu können, ob es gut genug für Lenny ist.
Also: Nicht wundern wenn was schief geht und offensichtliche Upstream-Bugs unbedingt hier melden: http://bugs.debian.org
Fehler in unseren Paketen gehen natürlich am Besten direkt ans BTS.
http://www.debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=97490
Meaning: The debian KDE maintainers are just moving KDE 4.1 trunk to experimental and skip the KDE 4.0.x series. |
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Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 04:13 PM
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| For myself, I am in no hurry to migrate to KDE 4.xx. I would rather have a lil more stability. |
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Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 10:51 PM
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I don not know whether Ana is joking because we have 1st of April, but this sounds really interesting:
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Important for KDE 4 users: KDE 4.0.3 and KDE 4.1 trunk
Von:
Ana Guerrero
An:
debian-kde@lists.debian.org
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Heute 15:54:22
Hi,
KDE 4.0.3 will be released tomorrow, but it won't be upload to Debian.
Instead, we, the KDE packagers, have started to work directly on KDE 4.1. We
are currently uploading packages to experimental with a trunk snapshot from
KDE's subversion. They are those packages named 4.0.6X+svnXXXX
This 4.0.6X packages include _big changes_ in some packages, specially new
stuff that made some packages go to NEW first, the upgrade path from 3.5.9
is not fully tested/fixed, and they are being uploaded for i386.
So if you are using another arch different of i386, you will have to wait
maybe 2 weeks or so for having packages for you arch, and if you are using
i386 you still will have to wait packages be accepted in NEW and do not be
surprised if they do not update fine.
My personal piece of advise:
a) if you are a 3.5.9 user waiting to test KDE 4, wait for at least a month
and then we trust KDE 4 packages in experimental will be nice to install and
KDE 4.1 will be nice to use as well.
b) if you are a 4.0.2 user, wait at least 2 weeks.
As always, pretty please only report bugs against pacckages in experimental
when it is clearly a Debian packaging related bug, for bugs in KDE desktop
itself, please use KDE's bugzilla.
Ana
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Posted: Apr 01, 2008 - 10:59 PM
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| no jokes, that work is already in progress for a few days (and doesn't affect sid/ sidux users yet - that stuff only gets to experimental for the time being). |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2008 - 08:31 AM
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| especially b) is seroius . I yesterday removed 3.5.9 but couldn't yet install KDE4. |
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Posted: Apr 10, 2008 - 04:18 AM
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Well, after a couple of weeks of trying it is finally installing out of the experimental repo.
I've got it installed in vbox with a crap vid card so I can't activate all the fancy effects but I have to say that so far I'm not impressed. It's like Vista meets gnome - dumbed down like gnome and convoluted like vista. They seem to have removed a great truckload of options. I expected it to have more user features, not less. And that menu system? What a massive step backwards from fly-out menus. Time consuming clunkiness anybody? It's as bad as vista.
I won't go into my gripes here, I may start a new thread for that after I've installed it outside of vbox and given it a more thorough testing. All I'll say for now is that if this is what it's going to be like on the final release I'll be tempted to switch to gnome (with konqueror installed) - now that's saying something!
(PS: this is not because I will have to convert all my kde3 stuff because I expected to have to do that, I'm simply not impressed with it.) |
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Posted: Apr 10, 2008 - 04:58 AM
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I was just exposed to the horrible new vista menus too, where they removed the flyouts, making them a total pain in the ass to navigate.
The problem in commercial software is that you always have to try to justify the next release, so you change things that were totally fine.
Hopefully kde 4.1 won't follow this ridiculous course, vista is so silly that you shouldn't emulate it, just be better than it, which isn't hard to do now.
I think at some point the kids who write this stuff will need to learn that you don't need to change the interface all the time to keep yourself amused, it's like a car, you have a steering wheel, brake pedals, things do what you expect them to do. Change the backend, sure, make it better, whatever, but this changing to change, I don't get it, it's counter productive. |
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