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Post subject: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now!
 Posted: Sep 10, 2007 - 09:16 AM
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Lenovo offers Notebooks with Suse Enterprise, but is asking about what other distro should be offered preinstalled on their notebooks. Ubuntu is on first place as of now, but sidux is only 9940 votes away from kicking Ubuntu away from the pole position 
So please vote now on
http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98
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Post subject: RE: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now!
Posted: Sep 10, 2007 - 09:45 AM
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| I would assume most punters buying a ready to run Linux installed notebook would want to be able to play dvds and various other multimedia applications and I don't understand how that would be able to happen. Maybe Lenovo could pay licence fees but how would that fit in with sidux and Debian policies. |
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Post subject: RE: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now!
Posted: Sep 10, 2007 - 10:09 AM
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almost 50% of more then 20.000 answers went for ubuntu.
'nough said.
greetz
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Post subject: RE: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now!
Posted: Sep 10, 2007 - 10:16 AM
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devil,
hast Du wenigstens Dein Vote gesetzt ?  |
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Post subject: RE: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now!
Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 09:09 AM
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I'm already running sidux on 2 Thinkpads (one X61t, the other t41p, currentyl I'm using vista on the tablet since most of the new hardware isn't well supported in Linux yet) why would I need it preinstalled.
I voted for Debian. No offense, but although sidux is IMHO the most Thinkpad friendly distro, I wouldn't recommend it for productive use, unless the user really can cope with things that get broken after an update of whatever package. After all sidux is still based on SID, and that will at least break the binary graphics drivers once in a while (and other stuff too).
lol Apple Mac OS X - 252 Votes |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 10:17 AM
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I thought sid was debian . . . so what do voters think they are voting for with 'debian'?
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Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 01:24 PM
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drb wrote:
I thought sid was debian . . . so what do voters think they are voting for with 'debian'?
Since Lenovo is talking about which distribution Users want to see supportet: sidux!=Debian Sid
Or do you think if Lenovo supported sid, a support person could help you, if you had questions concerning sidux scripts?
btw.:
"The stable distribution contains the latest officially released distribution of Debian." (http://www.debian.com/releases/)
But you're right, it's not clear to refer to Debian stable as Debian. |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 02:27 PM
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I agree with titan and others. Keep in mind, this is the "unstable" part of Debian. I'm sure it's an adequate reason for all hardware sellers. Who wants to buy an unstable entitled system ?
My 2 cents, L.W. |
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Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 04:22 PM
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the Official Fangirl felt it necessary to vote for sidux  |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now
Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 10:27 AM
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mcgiver wrote:
I'm already running sidux on 2 Thinkpads (one X61t, the other t41p, currentyl I'm using vista on the tablet since most of the new hardware isn't well supported in Linux yet) why would I need it preinstalled.
I voted for Debian. No offense, but although sidux is IMHO the most Thinkpad friendly distro, I wouldn't recommend it for productive use, unless the user really can cope with things that get broken after an update of whatever package. After all sidux is still based on SID, and that will at least break the binary graphics drivers once in a while (and other stuff too).
lol Apple Mac OS X - 252 Votes
binary drivers are nothing a distro should take as "must have" - argument. They are barely legal and its not linux' fault at all, that the graphics-chip vendors do not care about open drivers.
So the use of a binary driver is nothing more than trouble delivered right to your home or harddisk.
if that crap is really an argument for the quality of a distro, we all should think about power... not power of graphics thips...but power of their manufacutrers about the market, the OEMs and us, the users.
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 10:39 AM
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sidux isn't pure debian-sid and it isn't more 'unstable' like most other distributions or OperatedSystems, I think.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Wanna sidux on Lenovo/IBM-Notebooks? Please VOTE now
Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 08:09 PM
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Ge0rgy wrote:
binary drivers are nothing a distro should take as "must have" - argument. They are barely legal and its not linux' fault at all, that the graphics-chip vendors do not care about open drivers.
So the use of a binary driver is nothing more than trouble delivered right to your home or harddisk.
if that crap is really an argument for the quality of a distro, we all should think about power... not power of graphics thips...but power of their manufacutrers about the market, the OEMs and us, the users.
greetings,
me
Was it ever doubted that hardware manufacturers have lots of power over users? Have a look at past ATI drivers - those were more than crappy (didn't even run on all models, no composite, took usually about a month till they supported newly released xorg versions, or kernels), ATI even prevented OpenSource drivers (at least in the past, luckily this got better, and hopefully this continue that way)
Few of the OEMs cared about that a long time.
I know IBM/Lenovo changed to Nvidia (which only offer binary drivers too, but at least they support their models, prepare on xorg releases or kernel changes and support composite) on most of the high-end models, but I wouldn't bet they based that decision solely on ATIs Linux support.
You are right, binary drivers are nothing a distro should take as "must have" - argument, but most users (and not only those from Ubuntu) prefer to have fast drivers probably even with 3d acceleration.
(it took ~1 Year till a mesa driver didn't produce display errors on my ATI Fire GL T2 mobility, let's not talk about performance here)
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sidux isn't pure debian-sid and it isn't more 'unstable' like most other distributions or OperatedSystems, I think.
The kernel is not (of course) but some packages are. I wouldn't say I have numbers that proove that statement since all my system crashes in the nearer past were results of a more than unstable user version of the intel 965GM driver, or on my T41p the ATI binary driver that froze the system from time to time when killing kdm.
Plus by the time I used another Distro than Kanotix or now sidux for more than a week, distros were more unstable (especially Ubunut, with their custom kludgy packets) . |
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