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 Posted: Aug 25, 2007 - 06:26 PM
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Shame, I apologize to you for my harsh words.
I meant what I said, but I didn't mean it so offensively.
I have always thought of you as a good man and respect what you have brought the Debian community.
Good bye for now. |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2007 - 10:09 PM
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shame
EXCELLENT !!!
Very well written out, thank you |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2007 - 10:30 PM
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@ JackieBrown
It seems your post has been deleted. No worries, I didn't find anything you said offensive personally.
@ piper
Thanks, but it was mainly quotes from several sources, including the sidux manual (with one or two bits added by me) so it's those people that deserve the credit (unfortunately, I can't actually remember who said what now), I just stuck it all together  |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2007 - 11:12 PM
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shame wrote:
@ piper
Thanks, but it was mainly quotes from several sources, including the sidux manual (with one or two bits added by me) so it's those people that deserve the credit (unfortunately, I can't actually remember who said what now), I just stuck it all together
Yes, I know, but, you took the time to do what you did and did it well |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2007 - 07:17 AM
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| bump! Didnt this need to be made sticky then? |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2007 - 09:34 PM
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| Yeah slam! I thought this was meant to be a sticky? Maybe he forgot |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2007 - 10:45 PM
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nice one shame, with a few "tweaks" here n there it would be suitable for the manual imho.
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Posted: Aug 27, 2007 - 11:25 PM
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Hey! It's a sticky now.
@ kstevek
Much of it is already taken from the manual but let me know what tweaks you think it needs. |
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Posted: Aug 27, 2007 - 11:59 PM
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Shame, I think you should specifically point out to people that breakage is very likely if they try to upgrade Xorg, KDE, or their dependencies while those things are still running. And maybe mention that these things get updated regularly in SID. Missing/changed names/dependencies create headaches, but it was trying to upgrade KDE and X86 while they were still running that borked my first system.
I get the feeling that other distributions don't deal with Xorg and KDE upgrades except when they release new version of their distro, so this whole business of worry about upgrading Xorg or KDE while it's running might be new to them. |
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Posted: Aug 28, 2007 - 12:32 AM
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| Ok, I've added a bit about KDE and Xorg now. |
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Posted: Aug 29, 2007 - 06:54 AM
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| Please keep up the good work Shame, including your repository. I think your work helps to make things clearer to us non developers, old codgers and new users who may not be quit so quick on the uptake. I use smxi for updates but will use apt for installing programs from now on. |
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Posted: Sep 04, 2007 - 07:44 PM
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Just to pitch in on this but would there be anything wrong with someone coming up with a script that allows you to do a keyword search for packages (like with Synaptic) in INIT 3? It wouldn't be graphical, obviously, but it would save the effort of finding packages in Synaptic, writing them down, then opening console etc (yes, I'm lazy).
How about: apt-get search KEYWORD? or something like that? All it would have to do is bring up a numbered list of packages that you could then install safely. SMXI already has functions like that and it might help remove the temptation to upgrade in INIT 5. Maybe SMXI could have a function like that, I don't know.
In fact -and here is an idea- how about an application were you just click a button on your taskbar, it asks you for your root password and then sends you into INIT 3 and runs SMXI all in one go? The little Hermes gadget seems like the ideal candidate for the added function. Is that feasible?
Just a thought. |
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Posted: Sep 04, 2007 - 09:50 PM
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"apt-cache search keyword" does that.
The downside is it can bring back a lot of results (it seems to do something like the name and description search in synaptic) and it can look a bit messy and confusing.
I assume there is some way to filter these searches better with apt-cache search but I never looked into it.
I'm sure someone could come up with a script to send you into init 3 and auto run smxi. Though I think it will ask for a login once it gets to init 3 anyway. |
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Posted: Sep 04, 2007 - 10:21 PM
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shame wrote:
I assume there is some way to filter these searches better with apt-cache search but I never looked into it.
Adding ^ before the keyword filters results.
Code:
gavin@sidux:~$ apt-cache search amarok
amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE
amarok-engines - output engines for the Amarok audio player
amarok-xine - xine engine for the Amarok audio player
exaile - flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+
kamefu - KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files
kamefu-data - Data files for Kamefu
kopete - instant messenger for KDE
libkamefu-dev - Development headers for Kamefu
libkamefu0 - Libraries for Kamefu
lineak-kdeplugins - LinEAK KDE plugins
minirok - a small music player written in Python and inspired by Amarok
moodbar - Analysis program for creating a colorful visual representation of an audio file
vorbisgain - add Replay Gain volume tags to Ogg Vorbis files
xmms-kde - MP3 player integrated into the KDE panel
gavin@sidux:~$ apt-cache search ^amarok
amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE
amarok-engines - output engines for the Amarok audio player
amarok-xine - xine engine for the Amarok audio player
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Posted: Sep 04, 2007 - 10:57 PM
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| Thanks for that both of you. That's very useful information. I'd never heard of apt-cache keyword before. |
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