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Post subject: Is the forum becoming less friendly?
Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 02:52 AM
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I don't know if it's my imagination or what.
Due to a chronic lack of free time these days I haven't been visiting the forum as much as I'd like lately.
As I've been catching up on the comings and goings I can't help but feel the forum has a slightly less friendly edge to it.
There seem to be more harsh words and rants aimed at other users than I remember before.
There was always plenty of ubuntu bashing (as there is on most forums) but it mostly seemed good natured than hostile but I hadn't noticed user bashing before.
Maybe I'm just imagining it or just never noticed the comments before. I dunno... |
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Post subject: Is the forum becoming less friendly?
Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 03:05 AM
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hmm. could you give some examples?
I did not notice it on a wide range. There are some threads with topics that will naturally lead
to some ranting / bashing but on the newbie-help threads most answers seem to be like they've always been:
Short and direct but not unfriendly. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 03:16 AM
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I would rather not give specific examples as I don't really want to start pointing fingers or cause offense or upset to the people in question.
I dunno, maybe it's a language thing.
I also think if anyone needs examples then it surely means it is just in my imagination after all.
Maybe it's the hormones all over the place after the birth of the new baby making me more sensitive (ok, so I wasn't actually the one that physically gave birth but still).
Ho-hum, forget I said anything
<quickly tries to brush the whole thread under the carpet before anyone else walks in> |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 03:31 AM
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| I noticed as well. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 04:27 AM
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hmm. maybe turn this into a poll. so we got some more meanings even from users who scare from posting what they feel here.
I still don't really see it but as we now already got 2 users I think there is enough reason to look depper into this. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 05:03 AM
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I noticed. I too have been quite busy with a new job and only glance through the forum when I can. It does not surprise me that the forums are changing in tone what with popularity of sidux. The users have definetly climbed in numbers as of late. "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
or...
"People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully"
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 05:03 AM
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| Well to add, I've noticed but I don't really care. And the fan base is so strong here, I doubt many others would post in agreement even if they had noticed it. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 05:26 AM
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Of course it isn't dickhead. Pull your head in or I'll jump out of your screen and rip your bloody arms off.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 06:05 AM
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Now now, cathbard!
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 06:47 AM
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Hi everyone. I am brand new here kinda. I have had sidux on my box for about a month now, and really like it. I enjoy learning new things. I don't post much here because I usually manage to find answers to any of my questions searching the forum. But I do not notice anything abnormal in the way of being less friendly. But I could just not see it because it isn't in the threads I look at. Doesn't mean it isn't there, but I haven't seen it.
BUT... I do have a question, when someone is being unfriendly or bashing, should the person be checked on it or not? Is this a topic for a poll? If you check a person on it, sometimes that's what they want, attention. But if you let it go unchecked, it could get out of hand.
All of the forums I go to have been extremely helpful.
One of the best things about Linux is all the help I get from people in the forums, and so quickly. It is free service from people willing to give their time here. And I deeply appreciate that. It is a very refreshing twist on how our world is, usually.
One last thing. I am from Michigan. It has always kinda amazed me how big a revelry there is between The University Of Michigan, and Michigan State. And just because someone goes there, or knows someone that does, or just like that particular school, it seems that it automatically makes the one better than the other. Both of these colleges are good, they are different in what they do, but both quality institutions. A mature adult would see this. What is the point you may ask? We can all be a little more mature, and not let the trivial matters have any power at all. Everyone has the right to follow the dictates of their own conscience, but that very right imposes upon them, the responsibility to respect that right in others. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 09:25 AM
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I think people get tired now and then and might snap etc, but overall the tone is fairly decent, bar the occasional rant etc...
But I think it's not bad. I know I'm being 'less friendly' and trying to answer the questions in less time, I guess anyway, unless... there's a rant to be ranted.
But long term, it's really the newer users who will end up defining the overall tone of the forums, as they begin to post etc and help, so I suspect these things move in cycles.
Believe me, I used to participate in a very large forum, where a totally fake niceness was enforced, and that's one of the things I really liked about kanotix/sidux forum, you could be a bit more honest. So I'd say you may be noticing something that's always been somewhat present, but maybe it's a bit more present at the moment, all quite subjective. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 09:28 AM
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| I don't think it is your imagination, I have noticed it also. It seems to me a lot of the forum regulars are posting less. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 09:41 AM
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Although I did not have much time recently to spend in our forums, I did recognize some more "short lines" answers - even from well known and reputated sidux people. I guess there are 2 reasons:
1) If you see the same question asked again & again here, while it is properly answered in our manuals and in several forum threads, you might get bored and tired of answering it again. I myself just keep distance from such repeated questions, but others might still feel they need to help and give those "short" answers which may sound unfriendly. Our user base is growing very fast, more and more questions need to be answered - so our best strategy here would be to find more helpfull hands answering and moderating.
2) While sidux is growing we have attracted more and more people who are not used to the common style of communication in a Linux forum. They need someone to take their hand and show them how things work when they ask their first question. We need kinda mentors for those people, who show them where and how to search first, how to give enough information when finally asking, how to ....
Regarding the missing $buntu bashing, well - that's my fault. I confess I had to use it a lot recently because 2 clients insisted on it. I still hate it, I still find it overrated and underdeveloped, but I simply had no time to start my rants here again.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 10:13 AM
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I agree with H2.
The overall tone has changed slightly but I think new users will define the overall atmosphere.
However I still think the sidux forum is one of the most helpfull forums for any linux distro and answers (good or bad) happen very quickly.
Thats what users want and everyone in the sidux "Crew" helps with. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 01:35 PM
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Yes, its been unfriendly at times recently. I've played a larger part in shaping the recent atmosphere then ever before as i haven't reguarly used the forums at all until the last few weeks.
Will take a break for a bit, see if things get friendlier  |
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