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Post subject: AptonCD with sidux?  PostPosted: Jul 07, 2007 - 02:37 PM



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Hi, I was just looking at the AptonCd webpage (http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/) earlier today and it is perfect for installing sidux on my Linux box which doesn't have any direct internet access. So here's the thing:

Is this software fully compatible with sidux, seeing as it works with Ubuntu and Debian Etch pretty well?

I just downloaded the Live CD like 5 minutes ago and its burning at the moment, so I'm going to be trying this out for the first time! Very Happy Wish me luck!
 
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Post subject: RE: AptonCD with sidux?  PostPosted: Jul 08, 2007 - 12:19 AM
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Can I install APTonCD on any debian-based system ?

Short aswer: No.
Long aswer: Yes, but...
APTonCD have full support only on Ubuntu (dapper, edgy and feisty), but works fine on Debian etch and sid. It can be installed on others debian-based system with apt, gnome, and other required dependencies, but we do not give any warranty that all functions will work.


This is not supported by sidux, if you install it, and it b0rks your system, your on your own Wink NEVER install anything that has to do with Ubuntu on a debian sid (or stable for that matter) system, this also brings in alot of gnome crap

      Code:
root@siduxbox:/home/piper# apt-get install aptoncd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  capplets-data desktop-file-utils gnome-control-center gnome-desktop-data gnome-doc-utils gnome-icon-theme gnome-menus libcamel1.2-10
  libebook1.2-9 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.18 libeel2-data libgail-common libgail18 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd1 libgnomekbdui1
  libgtk2.0-bin libmozjs0d libnautilus-burn4 libnautilus-extension1 librsvg2-common libslab0 libxklavier11 libxml2-utils libxul-common
  libxul0d lsb-release mkisofs nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-data python-apt python-dbus python-glade2 python-gmenu python-gnome2
  python-pyorbit xsltproc yelp
Suggested packages:
  esound-clients gnome-screensaver xscreensaver gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-esd xrdb eog python-apt-dbg
Recommended packages:
  evolution-data-server gnome-user-guide gnome-session lsb desktop-base libgnomevfs2-extra fam python-gtk2-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  aptoncd capplets-data desktop-file-utils gnome-control-center gnome-desktop-data gnome-doc-utils gnome-icon-theme gnome-menus
  libcamel1.2-10 libebook1.2-9 libedataserver1.2-9 libeel2-2.18 libeel2-data libgail-common libgail18 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd1
  libgnomekbdui1 libgtk2.0-bin libmozjs0d libnautilus-burn4 libnautilus-extension1 librsvg2-common libslab0 libxklavier11 libxml2-utils
  libxul-common libxul0d lsb-release mkisofs nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-data python-apt python-dbus python-glade2 python-gmenu
  python-gnome2 python-pyorbit xsltproc yelp
0 upgraded, 41 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 08, 2007 - 01:26 PM



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Ooo...okay, in that case can someone recommend a similar tool which lets me download packages on a separate computer and then install these downloaded packages on my sidux box? Because my linux computer has no direct internet access.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 08, 2007 - 02:02 PM



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1. on your offline computer, type:
      Code:
apt-get --print-uris --yes dist-upgrade | grep ^\'http: | awk '{print "wget -c " $1 " -O /var/cache/apt/archives/" $2}' >getdebs.sh

this creates a script "getdebs.sh"

2. copy and start the script on the internet pc, it downloads all required packages into /var/cache/apt/archives/
3. copy the packages to /var/cache/apt/archives/ on your offline PC
4. start a dist-upgrade (easiest way with "smxi")

Greetz,
Blue Shadow

edit: this was for upgrading, if you want to install new packages, replace "dist-upgrade" by "install <packages>" in step 1, for example:
      Code:
apt-get --print-uris --yes install wesnoth supertux | grep ^\'http: | awk '{print "wget -c " $1 " -O /var/cache/apt/archives/" $2}' >getdebs.sh

in this case, you have to replace step 4 by "apt-get install <packages>" as usual.


Last edited by BlueShadow on Aug 01, 2007 - 09:07 AM; edited 1 time in total
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jul 08, 2007 - 05:12 PM



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Wow!! Thanks BlueShadow!

One question though...my internet computer runs Windows...is it possible to boot up with the LIVE CD and download this stuff onto an external USB drive?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 01, 2007 - 09:03 AM



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shouldn't be a problem
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 16, 2007 - 09:04 PM



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      BlueShadow wrote:
1. on your offline computer, type:
      Code:
apt-get --print-uris --yes dist-upgrade | grep ^\'http: | awk '{print "wget -c " $1 " -O /var/cache/apt/archives/" $2}' >getdebs.sh

this creates a script "getdebs.sh"

2. copy and start the script on the internet pc, it downloads all required packages into /var/cache/apt/archives/


This is a great idea, and the script works fine if you give execution rights with
      Code:
chmod u+x getdebs.sh
and call with the complete path name.

      Quote:
4. start a dist-upgrade (easiest way with "smxi")


This didn't work for me, I had to install the applications with
      Code:
apt-get install app1 app2 app3


Thanks to blueshadow for this good idea!
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 16, 2007 - 09:34 PM



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Hi,
      Quote:
This is a great idea, and the script works fine if you give execution rights with
      Code:
chmod u+x getdebs.sh
and call with the complete path name.

or just type
      Code:
sh getdebs.sh


      Quote:
      Quote:
4. start a dist-upgrade (easiest way with "smxi")
This didn't work for me, I had to install the applications with apt-get install app1 app2 app3


see my post scriptum:

      Quote:
this was for upgrading, if you want to install new packages, replace "dist-upgrade" by "install <packages>" in step 1, for example:
      Code:
apt-get --print-uris --yes install wesnoth supertux | grep ^\'http: | awk '{print "wget -c " $1 " -O /var/cache/apt/archives/" $2}' >getdebs.sh


in this case, you have to replace step 4 by "apt-get install <packages>" as usual.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 16, 2007 - 10:21 PM



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maybe a suggestion for h2: have an option to do an "offline" update using the debs that are in that cache that is created with the above-mentioned "getdebs.sh" script (pf course the debs need to be copied over to the offline pc beforehand.
 
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cas
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 09, 2008 - 10:05 PM



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      BlueShadow wrote:
1. on your offline computer, type:
      Code:
apt-get --print-uris --yes dist-upgrade | grep ^\'http: | awk '{print "wget -c " $1 " -O /var/cache/apt/archives/" $2}' >getdebs.sh
this creates a script "getdebs.sh"

does this script also download new kernels? i experienced several times that after generating the script, downloading somewhere else, putting new packages to /var/cache/apt/archives , and eventually executing smxi, things went as expected, but a new kernel was downloaded by smxi. time elapsed between script generation and executing smxi was maybe 12 h. maybe a new kernel was published in the meantime.
is there any tool, besides smxi itself and http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB ... highlight= , where i can see, there is a new kernel?

regards, cas

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 09, 2008 - 11:06 PM



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No, it doesn't - but - all the kernels are put into a zip for local install.

http://sidux.com/module-News-display-sid-303.html <-- links to sidux file mirrors, just choose one closest to you and navigate to the kernel directory. Of course, there are 32 and 64 bit kernels (slh slh64), so don't blindly choose one.

smxi automates this and the installation, but depends heavily on internet access, so you'll have to do it manually

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 09, 2008 - 11:56 PM



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ok, thank you.
but where do i put this kernel-zip file? i hope, smxi would recognize there is one and not download it again.

i assume all these package-tools and colleagues as siduxcc-hermes would not show me that a new kernel has been released.

EDIT:
btw. i have an internet connection, but it is not so good. so i try to transfer as much as possible by sneaker-net. except for the kernel it worked perfectly for me.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 10, 2008 - 05:34 AM



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I'm curious how one can run smxi without an internet connection. Is that possible or some arguments are needed?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 10, 2008 - 09:20 AM



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Simply start it without any argument (btw: -h is for help Wink ). If I remember well, smxi will ask you what do do if it does not found an internet connection.
 
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