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kelmo
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u serious?  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 01:36 PM



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You probably want to use update-alternatives. Okay, will look into it.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u serious?  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 01:58 PM



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Closed: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/fulls ... 17278.html

Next time you report a bug, please use a less provocative/suggestive bug report title.
 
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michaa
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u serious?  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 02:10 PM



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Sorry, wasn't meant to be provocative, but I really thought you did it deliberately ... and therefore it was serious question. If I would have been sure this is a bug, I wouldn't have asked.
 
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kelmo
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u serious?  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 02:27 PM



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The title seemed to assume we deliberately made this change, even though there is overwhelming opinion that vim is unsuitable as a "first time users" command line editor. This simply wasn't the case.

So a good title would be: "when mc is installed, mcedit should be default editor". It would invoke objective responses, not defensive or critical ones.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u serious?  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 06:47 PM



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i dont believe at all that "first time users" are going to use mc

at the end mcedit is a rather limited editor and do not deserve to be the main alternative as editor. *my 2cents*

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michaa
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u serious?  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 06:52 PM



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Thanks for this statement, I fully agree. Would be really nice to reinclude nano to the lite version, too.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u seriou  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 07:52 PM



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x-un-i wrote:
i dont believe at all that "first time users" are going to use mc

at the end mcedit is a rather limited editor and do not deserve to be the main alternative as editor. *my 2cents*


Which one does? Lets finish this issue ...
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are u se  PostPosted: Oct 08, 2008 - 08:13 PM



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ok, reverted the above changed and fixed it differently:
* mc uses its own editor
* global editor is chosen automatically via the alternatives priority system as it always was

I disagree with bloating kde-lit profile with extra duplicity, therefore like nano where it is.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim , are  PostPosted: Oct 09, 2008 - 11:05 AM



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kelmo wrote:
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I disagree with bloating kde-lit profile with extra duplicity, therefore like nano where it is.



One annotation:

specialy the lite version is very usefull for maintance purposes. And for those administrativ works everybody likes to use _his_ cl-editor. The less a user is skilled, the more he needs his editor. Although in general I agree with all efforts to keep the lite version _lite_, I think it is reasonable and justifiable to include several cl-editors, i.e. those which are most requested.
Sure, every user is free to look for a live cd with his preferred utilities. But the average user is happy to understand the functionality of one, his _prefered_ live-cd. I know many other live cds but would really like to use the very same distribution, i.e. sidux-live-cd, every time I need to boot from cd (and installing an editor when you need to fumble around with your network simply isn't possible).

So please reconsider your decision and allow this exeption _for good reasons_.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim ,   PostPosted: Oct 09, 2008 - 11:50 AM



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I do not agree, and am no more likely to agree if you use lots of underscores in a follow up.

If anything I start to think if adding nano to other builds and not to kde-lite is the wrong thing to do then it should be removed from the other profiles to avoid this same fight reoccuring.

nano is apt-get'able, deal with it
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim ,  PostPosted: Oct 10, 2008 - 12:25 AM



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Thanks for the hint of using vi/m instead of mcedit from within mc. Though I'm using it for years I wasn't aware of that option.

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: mc -> F4 -> vim ,  PostPosted: Oct 10, 2008 - 12:54 AM



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@spacepenguin: probably because of this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=413258
 
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