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Post subject: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
 Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 01:51 PM
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Just saw the second part come up. Decent review in my opinion. The author sounds like they actually have used sidux for a bit to see how they liked it instead of the usual b.s. of installing for an hour in order to make some deadline.
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/6501/2/ |
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 02:45 PM
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| A rather l a m e and even silly review IMO. I doubt she spent twenty minutes on writing it, let alone an hour. She did not explain why, IHO, sidux may be considered an "alternative to ubuntu". They are geared to very different users. In particular, sidux is very unsuitable for someone who has never used Linux and is looking to dip their toe in, whereas Ubuntu is (literally) tailor-made for such users. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 02:45 PM
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Ahh, nice that the author took a bit more time to actually delve into sidux this time around. He says that the sidux manual's so well written that other distros should do well to emulate it.
So sidux is very well deserving of being a bleeding edge distro that's easy to get going. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 07:29 PM
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In particular, sidux is very unsuitable for someone who has never used Linux and is looking to dip their toe in
This is not true. sidux is suitable for Linux-Newbies, it just depends of the individual and the will of experiencing something new.
@Deepdayze: He? "Carla" sounds female to me  |
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 01:56 AM
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I am an absolute Linux newbie. I read Carla's first post (linked to it thru LX'er) and immediately downloaded an ISO according to the instructions and tried it. Within a few days I did an install and am reading everything I can get my hands on.
Now I have read her second part of the review. I must say, it surprises me that someone who knows what's going on has exactly the same impression of sidux as I do, and has stated the case this clearly. She and I represent opposite ends of the 'user' spectrum.
I had tried Kubuntu before and found there was a lot more configuring to get everything going than I have seen with sidux.
Her two most accurate statements, I feel, are that the documentation is very far better than other distros, including the one's by big companies, and that the menu could use some cleaning up.
The documentation team should be proud of their work, it is as good or better than any professionally written, technical manual. It is one of the primary reasons I now use sidux, successfully. I have even been trying to use nothing but CLI, and the documentation is clear enough that I usually succeed in what I try.
The K menu issue to me is just that there are too many places. Example - there is a full menu selection when you click the K, and if you select Debian, you find another, somewhat different, full selection. Some applications and tools are only available in one place, but many are available in at least two places in the menu system.
Just my opinion, a new user who was looking for a distro who has chosen to join you.
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 04:50 PM
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 04:59 PM
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| Just use smxi, and you will avoid the d-u meltdown in the first place. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 05:29 PM
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sidux:Debian Sid:Unstable branch. Hello?
Hello, and welcome to sidux, seems that you are now arrived 
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enjoy your first d-u meltdown...
If you want to say something, just say it, my crystal ball is a bit pale today.
If you wanted to say that sidux will break most likely after a d-u or more likely than ubuntu then you are wrong. Btw, how many win users do update their windows regularly?
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 07:20 PM
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As you can see from my join date, I've been a full time sidux user for a little over a year. I started as a newb, I used Mandrake, PCLinuxOS, and Mepis for a couple of years prior to finding sidux.
In the beginning (of my sidux adventure) I used the cli for everything, kernel upgrades, dist-upgrades and I never had a du disaster.
If one checks in the forums, reads the upgrade warnings and double checks in IRC, problems can be averted.
Just reading what apt tells you when you start a du, can prevent most problems. If apt tells you it's going to remove something important, or upgrade something major, you say "no" to du and ask questions. It's not very hard to keep sidux stable.
After a couple of months using sidux I found smxi. This added another level of protection when I did my dist-upgrades. As smxi matured it even checked for version mismatches of popular software, like the openoffice mismatch in 32 bit today.
So if your waiting for your first du meltdown using sidux it may take awhile. For me, it's been a little over a year, a year of stable Debian Sid, using sidux. |
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Post subject: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 07:56 PM
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ditto
Smxi is the new sidux user's friend...and used regularly and also paying attention to the warnings, updating sidux should be a breeze. I'd say much easier than updating Windows. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 11:59 PM
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GoinEasy9 wrote:
As you can see from my join date, I've been a full time sidux user for a little over a year. I started as a newb, I used Mandrake, PCLinuxOS, and Mepis for a couple of years prior to finding sidux.
In the beginning (of my sidux adventure) I used the cli for everything, kernel upgrades, dist-upgrades and I never had a du disaster.
If one checks in the forums, reads the upgrade warnings and double checks in IRC, problems can be averted.
Just reading what apt tells you when you start a du, can prevent most problems. If apt tells you it's going to remove something important, or upgrade something major, you say "no" to du and ask questions. It's not very hard to keep sidux stable.
After a couple of months using sidux I found smxi. This added another level of protection when I did my dist-upgrades. As smxi matured it even checked for version mismatches of popular software, like the openoffice mismatch in 32 bit today.
So if your waiting for your first du meltdown using sidux it may take awhile. For me, it's been a little over a year, a year of stable Debian Sid, using sidux.
All of that kind of proves my point, doesn't it? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 12:19 AM
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dsmithhfx, I think you are failing to communicate something that is clear to you but is apparently indecipherable to anyone reading your words.
I suggest you try typing longer, more complete sentences, that actually contain the idea you have in your mind, in a more fully expanded form than you are currently using, otherwise you will not be understood.
So get out those typing fingers, and create a statement that is actually verbose enough to be understood by normal people. Good luck, I for one am anxiously waiting to see what it is you were actually meaning and intending to say. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 01:35 AM
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| I can only humbly implore you to reread the entire thread, from beginning to end. Concentrate. You can do it! All will become abundantly clear in the fullness of time, I have faith. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 01:38 AM
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| your fondness for obscurity and terseness, while admirable, sadly makes your desired point too elusive to try to unravel for my feeble mental resources. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: sidux, an alternative to ubuntu - review- Part 2
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 09:22 AM
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h2 wrote:
your fondness for obscurity and terseness, while admirable, sadly makes your desired point too elusive to try to unravel for my feeble mental resources.
LOL but that's how I feel about bash scripting...
dsmithhfx: "unstable" can mean different things. An atom can be unstable meaning it will fall apart over time. A ladder can be placed unstable meaning that it's probably unwise to climb it. I see unstable as "unstable weather": very prone to change. (I don't want to think of "the patient is in an unstable condition.")
Whether that's suitable for a newbie depends on the newbie. At least you can expect the newbie to be capable of burning a CD. Administrating via the CLI may be intimidating but the good part is one can't click "Ok" or "Proceed" from muscle memory.
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... She did not explain why, IHO, sidux may be considered an "alternative to ubuntu". ...
That's a bit unfortunately worded indeed, why not an alternative to any other distro. It seems that she wants it to be a replacement of Kubuntu, perhaps that explains the title:
Carla Schroder in TFA wrote:
However I can compare to Kubuntu Hardy, which was the operating system that sidux replaced on my Thinkpad T61
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