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 Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 03:27 PM
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| econaut: Look at my previous posts in this thread. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 06:02 PM
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Man, big changes are afoot:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common discover discover-data g++-4.3 gnustep-back0.14
gnustep-back0.14-art grub-common kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdebase-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libbind9-40 libclucene0ldbl libcups2
libcxxtools6 libdirac0 libdiscover2 libdns43 libexiv2-4 libftgl2 libgda3-3 libgda3-common
libglide2 libgnustep-base1.16 libgnustep-gui0.14 libgpm2 libhd14 libisc41 libisccc40
libisccfg40 liblwres40 libmozjs1d libmp3lame0 libntfs-3g31 libopenal1 libparted1.8-9
libphonon4 libqca2 libqt4-help libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql libqt4-webkit libqt4-xmlpatterns
libraptor1 librasqal0 librdf0 libschroedinger-1.0-0 libsoprano4 libstdc++6-4.3-dev
libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 libsub-identify-perl
libswt-gtk-3.4-java libswt-gtk-3.4-jni libtntnet8 libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 libxcb-xlib0
libxcb-xlib0-dev libxml2-utils linux-headers-2.6.25-10.slh.1-common
linux-headers-2.6.25-10.slh.1-sidux-686 linux-image-2.6.25-10.slh.1-sidux-686 lynx-cur
openssl-blacklist phonon python-eggtrayicon python-gtkhtml2 python-gtkmozembed python-ogg
ttf-liberation ttf-mscorefonts-installer xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd xulrunner-1.9
910 upgraded, 84 newly installed, 3 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 1043MB/1043MB of archives.
After this operation, 339MB of additional disk space will be used.
I've played around with KDE4 in live CDs and opensuse 11 and I hate it. Seems like too many configuration options are stripped out. I feel like I'm in a dumbed down version of Gnome. Hopefully Debian will delay releasing Lenny as stable for a looooooong time after the projected release date this fall (as is its custom for releases) so KDE4 isn't foisted on us until it has matured a bit.
Think I'll wait another couple of weeks before I DU. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2008 - 08:27 PM
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It looks like you haven't d-ued recently - nothing strange there, certainly not kde4
drb |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 12:37 AM
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I du'd last night after waiting about a week. Saw all the kdebase upgrades, kde4 libs etc. coming in. DU completed without incident, and everything seems to be working ok.
Buy the way, I'm a few days past my 1 year anniversary with sidux. I now have 5 boxes hooked up to my home network, always fully upgraded, and I've never had a system go down. Pretty good for someone who started out as a newb (maybe now an advanced newb). Thanks everyone. |
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sidux Gaia 64 - ECS 6100SM-M AMD64 AthlonX2
sidux Gaia 32 - Asus P4PE-X P4 Nvidia
sidux Eros 32 - Asus P4PE-X P4 Ati
sidux Gaia 32 - Thinkpad G41
sidux Eros 32 - M2N32SLI-WE AMD64 AthlonX2
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Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 08:52 AM
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For those who are still interested...
Kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 is supposed to contain the same files as
kdebase-bin-kde3 so the transition from one to the other should be
seamless. But something is different when it comes to kde configuration
because I've just discovered that my wife had no problems at all when
she accessed her own account on the same machine. I'd shutdown the
the machine with kde screwed up hoping to attend to it later. While
I was out of the house she booted up and did what she had to do without
experiencing any problems.
So it's my kde config that causes my problems. The only significant
difference between our two kde configs is that I have transparency
turned on while she doesn't.
I haven't got time to figure out what exactly goes wrong aand file a
bug report so I'm going to wait for the next update of the transitional
kde4 stuff |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 09:09 AM
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does anybody have solution to my problem that I am not able to set any background in kde ? I use kde as fall-back desktop but I would still like to keep it intact.
regards,
Hardik |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 10:13 AM
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rangolo:
Can you select a background but it won't survive a logout/login?
If so this might help.
Go to Control Centre->KDE Components->Session Manager-> On Login.
Is it set to restore previous session? If it is then select
a new backgroundchange and set the above to Restore manually save
session. |
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Post subject: perspective from a fresh install of 2008-02
Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 07:41 PM
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On a test partition early this morning I installed and immediately dist-upgraded (using smxi) with no issues at all. System remains very fast. Running 2.6.25.slh.1-sidux-686 here with the NVIDIA 173.14.09 version video driver.
I did have an issue with the installer and using Ext3. sidux wouldn't boot using a GRUB that was already installed. (it booted fine when its own GRUB was installed to the MBR) But switching to Reiserfs fixed that.
I continue to wonder about UTC and New York being the only choices available in the installer. Clicking on the button to change the default New York will only allow UTC as the change. Then you can't change it until after install. Is this a known bug? I haven't kept up as I should lately.
Also didn't want to configure the monitor resolution correctly. At least not OOTB.
Also I have to mention the aberration of wanting to change all the time stamps on all partitions (including ones with operating systems) without asking. Or is this a 'feature'.
Very nice system though! For Sid it's a superb implementation. Thank you to all the devs that work so hard on sidux.
PS: I didn't know there was a time limit on membership on this forum....Mine was lost or turned off without notice. I did have to change email addresses recently. But that shouldn't effect the membership date of joining. |
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Post subject: RE: perspective from a fresh install of 2008-02
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 12:54 AM
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I fixed my slowness problem with Kde.
I installed the Erebus Xfce option.
Xfce 4.4.2 is extremely improved since Xfce 4.0.0
Imagine that Kde 4.4 will be similar compared to Kde 4.0.
So far, I have been able to configure what I need or want in Xfce.
And it is faster. Subjectively. On a laptop w/ Celeron M 1.73 with 1GB.
Gnome 2.22 is also much improved and usable. Lots of good choices. |
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Post subject: RE: perspective from a fresh install of 2008-02
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 01:28 PM
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clubex: no I cannot even set it for the first time. I can choose one but after choosing all I see is a black background ..
thanks & regards,
Hardik |
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Post subject: RE: perspective from a fresh install of 2008-02
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 02:21 PM
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rangalo: all I can suggest is that you check the permissions of /.kderc
in your home directory. Make sure the user can change .kderc.
I presume you mean you can't change the background colour or did
you mean change a background image?
As you are using KDE as a fallback desktop have you installed all the
required the KDE files to get a fully functioning desktop? |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 09:50 PM
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Hi,
I think I have serious problems with KDE  . The background problem was the one which was very obvious moreover, I cannot see the run menu in kde (Alt + F2) , I don't have the right-click menu on the desktop and my konsole is completely transparent ... Do I miss some kde package ? what do you suggest ? I don't want to make a complete reinstall of sidux ..
thanks & regards,
Hardik |
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Post subject: Same problem with kde4 background
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 10:49 PM
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Hi, Rangalo,
I've had the same problem on a non-essential system on which I run sidux dangerously. There I have committed the sin of dist-upgrading (from "experimental" no less) using aptitude. Occasionally, I'll have that same problem with a black background, no taskbars or menus (other than right-clicking) available to me from within KDE, etc.
(That laptop also has an oldish ATI graphics board in it, so YMMV.)
The only way I can consistently get things to work is to delete my user's ~/.kde4 directory, and let it be rebuilt upon next login.
I hope you get your problem figured out! If I want to do any work requiring a window manager on that computer I have to use E17 or XFCE4 (neither of which I mind). |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 12:01 PM
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The opposite: yesterday's DU did not remove kdebase-bin-kde3, so apparently I don't need kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4. Is there a reason to install it nevertheless?
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root@siduxbox:~# apt-get -s install kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libclucene0ldbl libphonon4
libqt4-qt3support libraptor1 librasqal0 librdf0 libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0
libxml2-utils
Recommended packages:
raptor-utils redland-utils
The following packages will be REMOVED:
kdebase-bin-kde3
The following NEW packages will be installed:
kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data
libclucene0ldbl libphonon4 libqt4-qt3support libraptor1 librasqal0 librdf0 libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0
libstrigiqtdbusclient0 libxml2-utils
0 upgraded, 18 newly installed, 1 to remove and 66 not upgraded.
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 12:39 PM
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| I don't understand - above says it does want to remove kde-bin-kde3 and wants to install kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 |
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