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Post subject: Flash plugin install fails (solved)
 Posted: Jul 05, 2008 - 11:58 PM
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I tried to install flashplugin-nonfree (via apt-get) but it continually times out partway through the download. It retries several times then gives up at about 50% done. If I try to run the install again it tells me its already installed - why does think its installed when the download never completed?
I uninstalled it and tried to reinstall but each time I get the same time-out failure.
Is this the package I'm supposed to use or is there another one? |
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Post subject: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 12:15 AM
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that's the package, but it does a little speed test as part of the install, not sure how dialup would look to that speed test.
For your needs, get used to this: apt-get install -d flashplugin-nonfree
then once it's downloaded, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Just as a sample. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 12:31 AM
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h2 wrote:
that's the package, but it does a little speed test as part of the install, not sure how dialup would look to that speed test.
For your needs, get used to this: apt-get install -d flashplugin-nonfree
then once it's downloaded, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Just as a sample.
Well that didn't work well. When I ran apt-get install -d flashplug-nonfree I got the following:
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root@xxxxxxx:/home/xxxxx# apt-get install -d flashplugin-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
konqueror-nsplugins x-ttcidfont-conf msttcorefonts ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs
The following NEW packages will be installed:
flashplugin-nonfree
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 140 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/14.3kB of archives.
After this operation, 36.9kB of additional disk space will be used.
Download complete and in download only mode
As you can see it didn't appear to actually download anything.
I ran the install anyway just to see what happened but got the same as before as below:
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root@xxxxxi:/home/xxxxx# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
konqueror-nsplugins x-ttcidfont-conf msttcorefonts ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs
The following NEW packages will be installed:
flashplugin-nonfree
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 140 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/14.3kB of archives.
After this operation, 36.9kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously deselected package flashplugin-nonfree.
(Reading database ... 68119 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking flashplugin-nonfree (from .../flashplugin-nonfree_1%3a1.6_i386.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (1:1.6) ...
--2008-07-06 12:17:13-- http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.macromedia.com... 72.247.170.70
Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|72.247.170.70|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3044538 (2.9M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz'
0K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 1% 5.55K 8m47s
50K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 3% 5.01K 9m6s
100K ........ 3% 2.52K=22s
2008-07-06 12:17:42 (4.85 KB/s) - Read error at byte 111201/3044538 (Connection timed out). Retrying.
So the apt-get install -d flashplugin-nonfree didn't download anything, as I suspected. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 12:43 AM
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yes, that's what I thought was happening, flash does a speed test as part of its install process, and your connection is so bad that it's literally timing out the speed test, which was probably just not designed for whatever you're asking it to do.
I'm guessing your connection is just too slow for what most people are packaging their tools for, it is a bug, but it's an understandable bug.
However, even for dialup these speeds are very slow, I think you might want to find out if you're behind a proxy or some other isp junk that is interupting your connection, or other annoying things.
As you can see from the times you posted, your system is simply not even registering in the remotest way in terms of normal speeds, even for dialup.
-d did work fine, you just already have downloaded the package and have it in apt cache, that's all so it doesn't get it again, it used the one you have, the speedtest is from the package, which obviously downloaded since it's running the test. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 01:15 AM
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OK, so as an alternative - can I download the free one from Adobe and install that manually or is that a no-no in sidux?
If not, which one do I grab and how do I install it post download?
BTW, my dial up usually runs at around 49 - 52 Kbps. My laptop shares the connection with the kids' XP box, but I only do downloads etc when they're not using their machine. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 01:34 AM
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you can see by the times you posted that something is quite wrong in how flash is seeing the speeds, or the network, etc.
The flashplugin is just the adobe one wrapped for debian if I undersand it, so I assume the speedtest is built in? dont' know for sure, can't say. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 03:00 AM
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Firstly, the speed I posted above should have been kilobits/sec, not kilobytes. (I get confused between upper case and lower case K's and my isp seems to also)
Secondly, out of interest, I ran a couple of speed tests, one designed specifically for dialup and the results were as follows:
Dialup specific test
Download time: 16.267 seconds
File size: 99 Kilobytes
Estimated line speed: 49.7 (kilobits/sec)
Estimated line speed: 6.1 (kilobytes/sec)
Other tests designed for broadband:
42 kbps connection
5.25 kilobytes/sec download speed
40.7 kbps
5.09 kilobytes/sec
39 kbps
5 kilobytes/sec
Which is pretty much about what I expected. So the speeds shown in my download were about right for my connection. What kind of dialup speeds do you get over there? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 03:19 AM
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| same, sounds like a bug in the flash plugin speed tester to me. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 03:32 AM
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I'm downloading the flash plugin from the adobe site. Hopefully I've chosen the right one. The instructions for installation are:
1. Click the "Download .tar.gz" link. A dialog box will appear asking you where to save the file.
2. Save the .tar.gz file to your desktop and wait for the file to download completely.
3. Unpackage the file. A directory called install_flash_player_9_linux will be created.
4. In terminal, navigate to this directory and type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer. Click Enter. The installer will instruct you to shut down your browser(s).
5. Once the installation is complete, the plug-in will be installed in your Mozilla browser. To verify, launch Mozilla and choose Help > About Plug-ins from the browser menu.
Am I safe doing this or am I likely to break something? Is there anywhere particular I need to unzip the downloaded file and run the installer from? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 03:42 AM
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| Well, I took the chance and followed the above instructions. The plugin apparently installed correctly/successfully, but it didn't work. Flash still isn't working in Icedove. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 06, 2008 - 07:53 AM
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Problem solved. When I did the original install of the adobe download, I did it as user, not root. Apparently that wasn't the way to do it. I reinstalled it, this time as root, and flash now works fine.  |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:01 AM
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Using justakiwi's excellent instructions above, flashplayer still did not install for iceweasel 3 !, The ./flashplayer-installer script kept asking for a place to install to
ie: /usr/lib/mozilla, which I did not have, I installed iceape AND then using /usr/lib/iceape as the destination directory, flashplayer installed OK. Comparing my /usr/lib/iceweasel to the /iceape directory I noticed that there was no /plugins directory. Added /plugins to /usr/lib/iceweasel and simply copying the libflashplayer.so file from /etc/lib/iceape/plugins to /usr/lib/iseweasel/plugsins
solved the problem for iceweasel.
Why there was no /plugins already there is a bit of a mystery.! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Aug 04, 2008 - 06:17 PM
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| The flashplugin non-free is useless as far as I'm concerned. It's a waste of time. 'Might as well download the real thing. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Flash plugin install fails
Posted: Aug 05, 2008 - 10:22 AM
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tuxracer wrote:
The flashplugin non-free is useless as far as I'm concerned. It's a waste of time. 'Might as well download the real thing.
If you want to run an always cleanly upgradeable sidux/Debian Sid system, this package is very valuable and far from useless. It should always correctly install/upgrade the latest Flashplayer-Plugin for all browsers, and give you the power to cleanly de-install it later on. If it does not in your case, you should try to solve the problem via a bug report to the Debian maintainer, instead of circumventing the apt database.
I use flashplugin-nonfree since many years on 32- and 64bit systems with different browsers, and it always did the job.
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