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Post subject: RE: Ran du-fixes-h2, now sidux is not booting at all  PostPosted: Jan 23, 2007 - 07:02 AM



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Is anyone developing XFDisk?

Currently nobody maintains XFDisk development. The original author Florian Painke and the later developer Ulrich Müller have dropped development.


You might reconsider if you actually want to be using this bootmanager.
http://www.mecronome.de/xfdisk/

If you were using grub as your primary boot manager you could almost certainly boot into your system from my experience.

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Post subject: RE: Ran du-fixes-h2, now sidux is not booting at all  PostPosted: Jan 23, 2007 - 07:02 AM
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Currently nobody maintains XFDisk development. The original author Florian Painke and the later developer Ulrich Müller have dropped development. (Latest change 2001-01-09)

Well, if I remember right we where talking about this piece of crap already at Kanotix some time ago. You cannot run a Ferrari with crude oil! Please use a modern boot loader, this one is antique.
Let me add, we officially support Grub only (the best developed, feature rich and modern boot loader today). If you insist to use any other solution you're not just on your own, but you are obliged to tell as from beginning - not after 10 posts!
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Post subject: RE: Ran du-fixes-h2, now sidux is not booting at all  PostPosted: Jan 23, 2007 - 07:03 AM



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slam, lol, what are the odds of us posting this at exactly the same moment?

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But be also warned! XFDisk is a helpful tool, but if you don't use it carefully, you might loose your valuable data. XFDisk is tested thoroughly by many users, but of course I can not give you any warranty, not even the implied warranty of fitness for any purpose. If you plan to partition your hard disk, you will have to back up your files anyway, since deleting a partition destroys all data on it! So do back up your files! You are the one who is responsible for any damage that may be done if you use XFDisk.


So dump it, install grub, add your kernel boot information and you'll probably be in your install in a few minutes.

I have also seen this problem by the way, users posting about some issue, then only far into the thread mentioning some 'trivial' thing, like the fact that they had created a custom kernel, are using a non standard boot loader, etc...

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Post subject: RE: Ran du-fixes-h2, now sidux is not booting at all  PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 12:51 AM



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I have reinstalled the system but I have also leaved sidux for now. After hd-installation from the Kanotix-CD I have changed the sources to Debian Etch and made a full dist-upgrade (and except one single package it was an Upgrade). No real problems at all and everything is running (again). Only some fine tuning needed to make things look again like before (except sidux gfx). But I will follow the things which are going on here.

Slam:
Don't throw shit on Xfdisk if you don't know it. Xfdisk is for me one of the most reliable and flexible bootmanagers, inspired by the good old OS/2 bootmanager which I have used before switching to Xfdisk. And if a tool is working like it should, why pinning a new version number on it every few weeks or month. And don't forget that some gfx-stuff from the d-u via the h2-script destroyed my Grub, not the use of Xfdisk as main bootmanager.
 
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Post subject: RE: Ran du-fixes-h2, now sidux is not booting at all  PostPosted: Jan 24, 2007 - 09:42 AM
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Slam: Don't throw shit on Xfdisk if you don't know it. Xfdisk is for me one of the most reliable and flexible bootmanagers, inspired by the good old OS/2 bootmanager which I have used before switching to Xfdisk. And if a tool is working like it should, why pinning a new version number on it every few weeks or month. And don't forget that some gfx-stuff from the d-u via the h2-script destroyed my Grub, not the use of Xfdisk as main bootmanager.

I know this boot manager, and I told you so already a year ago at Kanotix. It might have been ok at it's time for the intended purpose, but definitely not for multi-booting modern Linux distributions by chainloading into their partition based own bootloaders. It is up to you to use whatever you want, but please don't blame Grub for your loop boots - it's Xfdisk that's responsible for booting.

There was a minor problem with gfxboot (fixed meanwhile) for a short period, searching for the Grub artwork at (hd0,0) instead the correct partion. This problem however could have been easily fixed by correcting one single letter in /boot/grub/menu.lst.

But: A "reliable and flexible bootmanager" like Grub in such case does nothing else than switching to the non-graphical boot screen, and you can continue as usual. Xfdisk seems to interfere here, taking over - and re-booting into a loop. I am not going to debug this problem here, because fixing bugs of unmaintained software is useless.

Greetings,
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