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justin_p
Post subject: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 01:28 AM



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All,

Not sure if this is a known issue but when I have installed both 2007.4.5 and 2008.1 the root password was not set to what I entered on the installer. In fact I have no idea what it was set too. After trying the one I set I tried "password" and blank. Both didn't work.
I ended up logging into the livecd and anything the root password manually.
 
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Post subject: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 06:32 AM
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i did maybe 40-50 installs with those 2 releases and it never ocuured to me.

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Post subject: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 08:51 AM



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@justin_p: are you using non-ASCII7-characters in your password?
 
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Post subject: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 02:57 PM



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EDIT: Do the @ and $ qualify?
 
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Post subject: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 04:02 PM
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In a Unix/Linux system you should NEVER use other than letters and numbers for user names, host names and passwords (actually that's a good advice for all operating systems). You avoid unpredictable problems (as the above example) that way. Adding just one more character to your password will increase security more than using one of those special characters, anyway.

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Post subject: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 04:06 PM



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You can do installation testing in virtualbox-ose, special characters might indeed be problematic (especially $), but issues like this would be a bug and worth reporting - so please try with simplified passwords which break for you (something you can disclose), it's the first report (which seems to be reproducable for the reporter).
 
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Post subject: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 10:24 PM



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in old days Unix system I had accound allowed to use passwd using backspace in it.
If you don't type the 'wrong' character and press backspace at the right place, it wouldn't log you in. Smile
on sidux/linux, I tried but backspace just erase the last character entered,
so no effect on password.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: Apr 30, 2008 - 11:18 PM



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slam wrote:
In a Unix/Linux system you should NEVER use other than letters and numbers for user names, host names and passwords (actually that's a good advice for all operating systems). You avoid unpredictable problems (as the above example) that way. Adding just one more character to your password will increase security more than using one of those special characters, anyway.

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I have been using linux for 5 years and computers for God knows how long. I have NEVER heard this. Strange. Someone should let the corporate world know.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: May 01, 2008 - 07:35 AM



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justin_p wrote:

I have been using linux for 5 years and computers for God knows how long. I have NEVER heard this. Strange. Someone should let the corporate world know.


Question

Are you sure you have the same keyboard layout activated on both cases?

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: May 01, 2008 - 10:36 AM



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Yep. Same keyboard layout.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: May 09, 2008 - 02:37 AM



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justin_p wrote:

I have been using linux for 5 years and computers for God knows how long. I have NEVER heard this. Strange. Someone should let the corporate world know.

Same here. We use special characters in passwords all the time at work (RHEL systems). This must surely be a figment of someoneś imagination.

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Root Password not set on install  PostPosted: May 09, 2008 - 08:07 AM



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It is simple, give us a reproducible test case* - without it, no dice.

* no, I don't want your real password - but given that you can trigger an error condition reliably, you can most simplify it to a point of not revealing confidential information; as already mentioned above, virtualbox-ose is perfectly suited to do quick installation tests.
 
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