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bubba - Dec 24, 2007 - 05:58 PM
Post subject: I believe I have found the show stopper for sidux

It refuses to reset the screen resolution for my monitor. It is set to 1224x124 or something like that, and yes i know i can reset the font sizes in kde control center, but some programs don't use those fonts. When I open krusader in super user mode the fonts are so tiny I can't read anything, not even the tool bar.

Sorry guys, I really like sidux and hate to see it go, but if It refuses to do what I want it to, it has to go.

h2 keep up the good work on the smxi script, It's an excellent piece of work.

h2 - Dec 24, 2007 - 06:13 PM
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You're being very vague, this isn't an issue I've really heard about recently. How did you try to set the screen resolution? There's a way to do that, fix-res, that works. The kde way does not really work at all.

Since you didn't state what resolution you wanted to use, i can't tell you exactly how to set it. but as a sample: fix-res 1024x768

restart x, and there's your new resolution, as long as the screen and gfx driver supports that resolution. Which gfx card and driver you are using also matters, so you need to provide more information about what you are trying to do, what your system is, etc.

Then set kde fonts to size you want, then set gtkrc-2.0 config file fonts the way you want, or try to install the gtk-qt engine package, I can't remember its name, and that creates a gtk matcher in control center.

There are basically two things you aren't understanding here: root user is a different user, so you have to set the root user fonts just like you do regular user. However, running as root user isn't in general something you should be doing. I've never seen the issue you're refering to however.

gtk apps have to have their fonts set by tweaking a small config file in ~. gtkrc-2.0 or something like that.

There are packages that try to integrate gtk and qt better, but I avoid them like the plague due to serious issues they have caused me in the past.

Basically, here's how it works with debian sid: you have to learn the stuff you need to do what you want, and there is a learning curve. Once, say in this case, you get all your fonts the way you want them to be, you leave it alone, and that's the last time you ever need to change that, unless sid breaks something, which may happen every year or two, then you fix it again. That's about it. Fonts are pretty much solved.

For specific questions ask on irc or forums, don't just give up because you didn't figure it out, nobody can figure everything out themselves.

I really would recommend against considering a few config tweaks you haven't yet learned as grounds to take any distro and call it a show stopper bug. show stopper bugs are failing to work on your hardware, unstable functioning, etc.

bubba - Dec 24, 2007 - 08:45 PM
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I have i945 onboard graphics and a 19" (18" viewable) monitor. I Tried everything here, and none of them worked.

http://sidux.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=7700&highlight=change+resolution

The fix-res changed the resolution supposedly, but when I rebooted to get the change, it was still at the wrong resolution. The resolution that I want is supported by both video card and monitor, and is not as high as the one sidux chooses to plague me with. I looked in the xorg.conf file and the only resolution in it is the 1024x768 that I want, but it is refused for the higher res that I don't want. I have installed twice and the same thing happened both times.

absolut - Dec 24, 2007 - 09:21 PM
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bubba,

when you boot with live-cd, is the correct resolution selected automatically, or do you set it via "screen=1024x768" cheat code?

bubba - Dec 24, 2007 - 09:40 PM
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absolut wrote:

bubba,

when you boot with live-cd, is the correct resolution selected automatically, or do you set it via "screen=1024x768" cheat code?

I don't remember, I'll have to check that next time I boot up. I'll get back to you on that.

JackieBrown - Dec 24, 2007 - 10:00 PM
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bubba wrote:

and yes i know i can reset the font sizes in kde control center, but some programs don't use those fonts.

Who in the world suggested that?

bubba - Dec 24, 2007 - 11:11 PM
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JackieBrown wrote:

bubba wrote:

and yes i know i can reset the font sizes in kde control center, but some programs don't use those fonts.

Who in the world suggested that?

No one suggested it, I just figured it out .

turtaf - Dec 25, 2007 - 02:22 AM
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I don't remember how I did, but if the problem is just with su applications, just run kdesu kcontrol and change the fonts for root apps as well.

anyway, there wasn' a part of sidux control center doing some task with fontsize???

devil - Dec 25, 2007 - 06:23 AM
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look at dpi as well, according to your screen size.

greetz
devil

heavensrevenge - Dec 25, 2007 - 12:10 PM
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Aren't root's font settings different than user setting causing the difference? I have the same situation when running apps with the root pass, but the fonts here are bearable....just barely though. So try changing roots own font preferences....... this does seem logical right guys??

Also he must have meant 124x124 font rendering res, not screen dimensional/size res. That WAS pretty darn vague with erratic grammar.

EDIT: i happened to read tartaf's post AFTER my submit, also have you tried an NODDC option in xorg.conf in the Device section, i need the switch to get over 800x600

bubba - Apr 18, 2008 - 12:50 AM
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turtaf wrote:

Thanks Turtaf, that fixed the problem. Now i have fonts in krusader that my old eyes can read.

cleary - Apr 18, 2008 - 02:44 AM
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This thread is a perfect example of how to get the best help in the linux world:

"problem x makes y software useless. Guess I'm heading back to z competitor"

Watch people climb over themselves to help you...

Well played bubba Wink

shame - Apr 18, 2008 - 06:57 AM
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You could try (as root):

Code:

cp ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals /root/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals

I think that should set your fonts same for root apps.

And add something like this in ~/.gtkrc-2.0

Code:

style "user-font"

{

   font_name="Comic Sans MS 9"

}

widget_class "*" style "user-font"

Code:

gtk-font-name="Comic Sans MS 9"

I have both lines, can't remember which one is used or if both are needed.

Then copy as root again:

Code:

cp ~/.gtkrc-2.0 /root/.gtkrc-2.0

I'm quite obsessive about everything looking the same, including fonts but it certainly wouldn't stop me using sidux.
In fact I think it may be useful to have root apps looking different to remind you they are root apps. And different sized fonts are immediately noticable.

The it's all personal opinion.

bubba - May 20, 2008 - 11:29 PM
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cleary wrote:

bubba - May 20, 2008 - 11:50 PM
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shame wrote:

I never had a problem with the fonts looking different. The fonts were so small that I couldn't read anything in krusader. The desktop fonts were tiny until I got into Kcontrol and made them large enough to see. I just couldn't figure out how to make the Krusader fonts larger. Thanks to turtaf that problem was solved. The resolution problem was solved with a re-install, I was just hoping for an easier way to do that.

snvv - May 21, 2008 - 08:17 AM
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cleary wrote:

I don't quite agree with this... Usually we get well above average help in sidux forum...
Some general questions-problems which may affect many, may get more attention, i think...

damentz - May 21, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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Oh, come on shame, comic sans? They even have a website banning that font.

shame - May 26, 2008 - 11:37 PM
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What what whaaat!?
Comic Sans is a fine font, I love it.
I might setup a website calling for the site trying to ban it to be banned Razz