Installation - Converting 32bit to 64bit phen - Aug 02, 2008 - 11:16 AM Post subject: Converting 32bit to 64bit
Greetings,
I hope I didnt miss an already existant thread on this:
Is it possible to easily convert a 32bit sidux to a 64bit one?
Perhaps just install a 64bit kernel, plus d-u'ing with only 64bit repos enabled?
If so, I would assume all the 32bit packages would still remain, having it a tremendous use (not to say waste) of diskspace?
Is there an overview anywhere where I can find applications for 64bit?
Like OOo, flashplayer, IW3, Amarok, Kaffeine, Beagle, Wine..
Thanks!
towo| - Aug 02, 2008 - 11:20 AM Post subject: RE: Converting 32bit to 64bit
U can't update from 32Bit to 64Bit.
dibl - Aug 02, 2008 - 12:23 PM Post subject: Re: Converting 32bit to 64bit
phen wrote:
Is there an overview anywhere where I can find applications for 64bit?
Like OOo, flashplayer, IW3, Amarok, Kaffeine, Beagle, Wine..
Thanks!
Greetings and welcome!
As towo| says, it is not an "update" -- you must install 64-bit sidux new.
However, there is no problem of "finding" applications. All the applications (well, 99.9%) that are compiled for 32-bit are also compiled for 64-bit, and are in the repos. There is no difference in the "look and feel" of selecting packages for the 64-bit architecture -- it is exactly the same. If you go outside the repos for downloaded applications, you might find one that only exists for 32-bit, and then it won't install but will give a "wrong architecture" error. Firefox 3 with flashplugin-nonfree and the mozilla-notallowedtosayitplugin works just fine for all the sites I visit include youtube and the news videos. Steve` - Aug 02, 2008 - 01:47 PM Post subject: Re: Converting 32bit to 64bit
dibl wrote:
Firefox 3 with flashplugin-nonfree and the mozilla-notallowedtosayitplugin works just fine for all the sites I visit include youtube and the news videos.
No freezes anymore with Iceweasel + Flash if you are watching more than 2 or 3 videos? I often see a crash of "npviewer.bin" here with sidux/64.
schmidtreiner - Aug 02, 2008 - 03:34 PM Post subject: Re: Converting 32bit to 64bit
You need to save your data (/home and other places where you stored data) and install completely new.
I have done it with most of our Family-PCs and most apps are working in 64-Bit now, some (which are only available in 32-Bit) however run in an "emulation"-mode usng the ia32-libs.
regards
Reiner Schmidt.
phen - Aug 02, 2008 - 04:35 PM Post subject: RE: Re: Converting 32bit to 64bit
schmidtreiner,
you mean I could use my customization stored in my home-folder for I wouldnt have to start from scratch when installing 64bit? Hm, still though I would have to find all the packages installed since my first install of sidux eros (which would be quite some)..
And that "emulation"-mode, you dont refer to chroot but sort of some automatically used 'hidden' emulation?
Thanks for your replies so far, appreciated!
dibl - Aug 02, 2008 - 09:54 PM Post subject:
No, ia32libs takes care of the 32-bit emulation with no user interaction -- it is transparent to the user.
I have occasionally noticed npviewer sucking CPU resources, even after Iceweasel is closed. I have not noticed it crash. I have a lot of CPU horsepower so it doesn't cause a problem, but other folks have chosen Opera or another browser to avoid such things.
Yes, you are going to lose your customizations when you do the new 64-bit installation. Sorry.
If your /home directory is on a separate partition, you can leave your data there and choose it on the installer so it is automatically set up. If /home is with the root filesystem, then you need to back your data up somewhere else before you install a new OS. schmidtreiner - Aug 03, 2008 - 08:45 AM Post subject:
@phen:
yes, you can keep the customisations in /home. And the ia32 libs/emulation are installed as dibls wrote. Only on some rare occasions it might be necessary to put a link from a lib in the 32Bit area pointing to the normal libs.
