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sidux Requests - Limit Included Packages
amenditman - Jul 09, 2008 - 12:35 AM
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Hi,
I'm kind of new to Linux and all the applications that are installed really are confusing.
How about a minimal Live CD that either has one application for each basic need, word processor, web browser, picture viewer, etc., or maybe a list of popular ones which are available and the user can select from the list during install.
I understand that Linux is about choices, but the KMenu as installed from the Live CD is overwhelming.
What do you think?
Amenditman
BlueShadow - Jul 09, 2008 - 12:44 AM
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Hi,
obviousely you installed the kde-full version.
There are also the much smaller kde-lite (pretty basic) and xfce(more or less complete desktop) versions availlable on the mirrors
Greets, Blue Shadow
amenditman - Jul 09, 2008 - 03:18 AM
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Thanks, I'll check those out.
amenditman - Jul 09, 2008 - 09:27 PM
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OK, I see, but, can I just start to uninstall packaged applications which I find I don't use? I mean without doing a re-install of a different version?
cleary - Jul 09, 2008 - 11:32 PM
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amenditman wrote:
OK, I see, but, can I just start to uninstall packaged applications which I find I don't use? I mean without doing a re-install of a different version?
RTBM == Read The Bluewater Manual
http://manual.sidux.com
amenditman - Jul 10, 2008 - 01:32 AM
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Sorry for being snippy Cleary.
I am reading the manual, though I haven't finished and don't understand everything yet.
I was just hoping to get a response in the tone of the above, and was encouraged to ask.
hubi - Jul 10, 2008 - 01:49 AM
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amenditman wrote:
OK, I see, but, can I just start to uninstall packaged applications which I find I don't use? I mean without doing a re-install of a different version?
Yes.
The root commands are:
Code:
apt-get remove packagename # deletes a package
apt-get remove --purge packagename # deletes a package and removes the config files in /etc (not in your $HOME)
To remove a package "family" like openoffice.org you can also use this command:
Code:
apt-get remove [--purge] packagename*
# example:
apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org*
Please always read the output of apt before you confirm.
The autoremove option of apt is disabled in sidux, in a rolling release it might lead to mayhem. But remaining libs do no harm.
hubi
sleekmason - Jul 10, 2008 - 02:01 AM
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The relevent sections on package managment should give you some basic info about apt-get.
Indeed you can just remove the packages you don't need without any problem. If this was a fresh install for you, it might be better to burn the kdelite version using k3b (see manual) before you start getting your system really set up. It would just save you some heartache of removing programs.
An easy way to see what programs are on your system is by using synaptic package manager to look at the programs. Please read the manual about using synaptic as it is not advised to use it for upgrading or installing xorg and the like.
If it is installed it will be under system in your menu. If not, you can install synaptic by opening a terminal, su to root,
then
Code:
apt-get update && apt-get install synaptic
,
Good luck and enjoy:)
muchan - Jul 10, 2008 - 10:47 AM
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An easier way to see what programs are on your system is just write
ls /usr/bin
on command line. 
makke - Jul 10, 2008 - 01:24 PM
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but there is not only /usr/bin!
dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{ print $2 }' | grep -v -e ^lib -e -dev
generates a nice package-list
sleekmason - Jul 10, 2008 - 04:43 PM
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you guys crack me up!
piper - Jul 11, 2008 - 09:23 PM
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Code:
dpkg -l|grep ^ii >list.txt
will put that list in /home and can be printed out 
GoinEasy9 - Jul 12, 2008 - 05:13 AM
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the shorter the better: ls /usr/bin >list.txt
but piper's is easier to read with the extra info.
h2 - Jul 12, 2008 - 05:32 AM
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and /usr/sbin
complete install list: dpkg -l | egrep '^(hi|ii)' | cut -d ' ' -f 3 > list.txt
ModestUser - Jul 12, 2008 - 09:19 AM
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I do it even shorter:
<TAB><TAB>
and more comfortable:
Code:
dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ { print $2 " (" $3 ")" }' | $PAGER
amenditman - Jul 12, 2008 - 01:40 PM
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Thanks for all that.
I'm going to take a shot at the 'hard' way this weekend.
I need the practice under the hood. Give me a chance to exercise the brain cells, maybe even remember some of it.
amenditman - Jul 12, 2008 - 07:03 PM
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Ok, so that was a crazy idea, but it did give me the experience I needed.
After 30 mins. checking out each package on the list with Konq - apt:/search? and Google, and wiki and then decide yes or no to remove and messing with the console.....
You got the idea, I'm going to do a fresh install with the kde-lite version as advised earlier.
You just can't tell some people things, they need to find out for themselves.
Thanks for your indulgence.
piper - Jul 13, 2008 - 04:06 AM
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Quote:
You just can't tell some people things, they need to find out for themselves.
Actually the best way of learning